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Title: World War Three and India

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INTRODUCTION TO THE PROGRAM: This is Voice Of Ambition’s second program with Mr. Ashok. When we published our first program the response to the episode was tremendous and the things that took place between now and then have attracted many curious questions from our audience. So as a result we are having this second follow up interview. I am Joy host for today’s episode. Mr. Ashok has written numerous articles, given interviews, and appeared on various TV Channels and on All India Radio on various occasions. The details of his research are given in his book - NOSTRADAMUS: THIRD WORLD WAR AND INDIA. Stay tuned for this exciting talk.

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Joy’s Question: Welcome Mr. Ashok and thank you for joining me again on Voice of Ambition.

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: Thank you for calling me again.

Joy’s Question: In my first interview with you, you covered many interesting topics and one of the interesting things you told me is that Nostradamus had predicted the death of a man named Mabus and sure enough few days after that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed by US forces. Will you comment on that? What were your thoughts when you first heard the news?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: Yes, that interpretation has come true. Now I hope that the divine messages given by Nostradamus would get more attention. In fact, I am in touch with some Indian seers who have studied the works of Nostradamus; as well as Indian saints like SOORDAS and Guru Gobind Singh who were on such a high level of consciousness that they could bring their own consciousness to a state of timelessness, and know about future. They, therefore, knew about the future from their inner self, while Nostradamus was told about the future, or actually shown the future events, by a cosmic power.

After my study of more than 30 years, I am certain that a member of COSMIC HIERACHY told Nostradamus about the future, to be interpreted when time comes for removal of ignorance regarding those aspects. Cosmic Hierarchy is the managing committee of divine powers that controls the evolution of life on earth. Through my study, I may have been able to pinpoint that cosmic power. But, that is another issue requiring lengthy explanation, and therefore, I will not discuss it now.

Regarding MUSAB, Nostradamus had written - 'MABUS would come and die soon'. The clue was in the word 'soon'. Other persons interpreted by Nostradamus scholars us Mabus - Saddam, Laden and George Bush - were on the scene since long. MUSAB Zarkawi rose as a terrorist leader on the international scene one and half years back, and also his name matched exactly; therefore I felt that it was he who was going to be killed soon. 

Joy’s Question: Now an important development has occurred in the Middle East and that is Israel taking action against Hezbollah? Did Nostradamus predict it?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: Yes, he had indicated a planetary position when such events would take place on earth that the Cosmic Hierarchy might feel - ‘Now the situation is out of control of humans, and if they do not intervene, the man is going to destroy their creation – life on earth’. There could be two periods based on interpretations of that planetary position – (i) June – July 2006, and (ii) in 2013. Killing of Musab, Bombay Blasts, and escalation of Middle East situation; all occurred in June-July 2006. A similarly dangerous planetary configuration will last till middle of 2007.

Joy’s Question: Some people are speculating that it will lead to third world war? What do you think?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: It may. The position would be clear by end of 2007. If peace prevails now, 2013 –14 would be the critical period.

Joy’s Question: What did Nostradamus say about Israel’s role in the world in these days?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: If I clearly state my interpretations; there could be an award of millions of dollars on my head, as in case of Salman Rushdie.

(laughs)

Joy’s Question: Indian government though lately has condemned the actions of Israeli government and made a statement to impose immediate ceasefire. What can you say about the India and Israeli relations?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: Whatever may be the situation now; I will bet my last penny on my following observations:

INDO-ISRAEL RELATIONS ; FROM ANCIENT TO MODERN TIMES

This research is based on ancient Indian scriptures and prophecies of Nostradamus.

About 12000 years back a super developed race of humans – Atlantis Race – which inhabited the earth was removed by the cosmic powers as it became so corrupt that the cosmic powers found it unfit to remain in existence. After some time a new race was developed by the Hierarchy, which is known as Aryan Race. This was the ‘Root Race’ that inhabited the Orient, and its ‘Branch Race’ was formed which inhabited the Occident.

Later, many branch races and sub-races were formed, but the representatives of these two earliest races remain even today, and they are India and Israel. Earlier, both of them revered SUN GOD, and the Cosmic Hierarchy gave them the basic knowledge about science, religion, and code of conduct. This was the body of the Hierarchy in existence at physical level and was known to both of them as ‘Braham’. A seer from the Occident was so close to Braham that he kept has name as A-BRAHAM, and was later known as ABRAHAM.

The Cosmic Hierarchy, however, gives the knowledge in symbolic manner and leaves the interpretations to the intelligence of humans. Therefore, both the races developed their cultures according to their interpretations of the basic knowledge given to them and developed different styles of living and different code of conducts. Later, many branch- races developed from these basic races giving rise to numerous religions, faiths, and cultures.

Now it seems that time has come for close coordination of these two powers – India and Israel – to fight against the threat from groups of terrorism, described by Nostradamus as the ‘Third Antichrist’.

One day the two great masters will be friends,
Their great power will be seen increased:
The new land will be in its flourishing peak,
To the bloody one the number shall be recounted
(Nostradamus prophecies: Century 2, quatrain 89)

Almost all the western interpreters have linked the two great masters mentioned in the above Quatrain either to USA and erstwhile USSR, or USA and China. But, this cannot be correct because Nostradamus has not described countries as masters. Masters, in his writings, are only religions or religious heads.

The two principal cultures on the earth, as mentioned by Nostradamus, have been discussed above. Now, the only representative countries of these ancient cultures are India and Israel. This fact is confirmed in the third line of the above Quatrain, where ‘new land’ has been mentioned.

Nostradamus had described Israelis as ‘Newcomers’ and Israel as ‘New Land’ in Cen. 3, Q-97 and Cen. 2, Q-19 (mentioned below). Nostradamus says that when Israel will be in a flourishing condition, the great powers of both India and Israel will increase, and both will benefit from each other. The bloody one referred in the last line may be the Third Antichrist, who will be confronted by the combined power of these two countries

Cen. 3, Q-97

A new law shall occupy a new land;
Around Syria, Judea and Palestine.
The great barbarian empire will crumble;
Before the century of sun is finished

[ A new country (Israel) will be formed in the area known as Palestine. A savage empire will trouble it, but that empire will be defeated (by Israel) before twentieth century is finished / or within one hundred years after the formation of Israel.] Cen. 2, Q-19

Newcomers will build a place without a fence,
And shall occupy a place that was not then habitable.
They shall at their pleasure take fields, houses and towns.
There shall be famine, plague, war, and a long arable field

[ The newcomers (Israelis) will build their country in a place, which will not be habitable. But they will make it habitable and arable (fit for farming) fighting against all odds e.g. war, famine and plague. This prediction is also remarkable in the sense that conversion of non-arable land by the Israelis into agricultural land is considered to be a miracle of modern age.]

It is to be remembered that Nostradamus made these predictions about 450 years back. The accuracy of these predictions, and of many more predictions that have been deciphered correctly, suggests that Nostradamus was actually shown the future events by a cosmic power for specific purposes. As said above, through my study, I might have pinpointed that cosmic power.

The main point that should be discussed today in the entire world is the activities of 3rd Antichrist as predicted by Nostradamus. He had described three Antichrists. They are generally considered to be – Napoleon, Hitler, and the main leader of today’s terrorism, who is perhaps yet to appear.

I agree with the interpretation of 2nd Antichrist as Hitler, but not with Napoleon as the first. And of course, the third is yet to appear. Napoleon was a conqueror, with mentality of greedy child, who wanted this country; that country; and the other one as well. But he cannot be called an Antichrist. Therefore, the first Antichrist has not generally been identified; he was probably born before Nostradamus.

The 3rd Antichrist would soon hold the world to a ransom, but would be defeated by Joint power of India and Israel, as predicted by Nostradamus.

Joy’s Question: According to Bible in the last days the whole world will go against war with Israel headed by Russia. Can you say something about this Prophesy in the Bible and does Nostradamus predictions hint anything similar to this prophecy.

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: As said above, Nostradamus had predicted a total victory for Israel and its allies.

Joy’s Question: So India will take the side of Israel

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: The question is already answered.

Joy’s Question: What will be China’s role in all of these events?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: No guesses.

Joy’s Question: Will America lose its influence in the world?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: Yes. If the war starts, George Bush would be blamed for it. Mainly three groups would be involved : (A) USA, Britain and allies, (B) France, Italy, Spain and allies (they would be sympathetic to the cause of Muslims), and (C) Muslim countries.

Thus; it would be a three-way confrontation. But in fact, no one is thinking about why this crisis has developed; while this would be the most important aspect if peace were to be brought in the world. I would refer to a passage from my book :

“ As explained earlier, the stage for Third World War was virtually set up in 1948 itself, just after the end of Second Word War, when, against the wishes of Muslim countries, the state of Israel was created (relevant Quatrains regarding the creation of Israel have already been discussed on page 22). A resolution was passed in the UN to form this new state, and through military action by Allied Forces the state of Israel was created. Had the new state been formed after consultation with Arab countries, the world today would not have been on verge of this war. After all, no one could have opposed the idea of creating a new state for those country-less people, but the same could have been done in an amicable manner after paying proper compensation to those who were affected, and also with proper plans for the rehabilitation for those who were uprooted. But, the allied forces, flushed with their victory in the Second World War, bulldozed their way, and thus created a fuse, which would trigger an explosion when the Muslim countries were in a position to build a bomb and attach it to that fuse. A relevant Quatrain that has already been discussed earlier, is reproduced below for easy reference: Cen. 1, Q-53

Alas, how a great people shall be tormented,
And the holy laws in total ruin,
By other laws, all Christianity troubled,
When new mines of gold and silver will be found.

With discovery of oil in their fields, Arab countries were placed by the destiny in a position where they could ‘torment’ the great sect and hope to totally ruin the culprits of formation of Israel on their land.”

If, the entire situation after the formation of Israel can be negotiated across the table with intention of – ‘Let bygones be bygones; we cannot roll back the time; let us see what best can be achieved through negotiations’ – perhaps the situation can still be retrieved. But, if both the parties are adamant on confrontation; let the prophecy of Royal Prophet be fulfilled.

Joy’s Question: You said that there will be an attack on the Pope? Can you elaborate on that?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: There are terrorist groups who are bent upon bringing ‘doomsday’. No better way for that than attacking the Pope. In fact, I feared this attack in 2004. A knowledgeable saint told me that this could have happened, but cosmic powers were able to avoid that crisis. But it may happen anytime, particularly when the Pope is on a visit to a foreign country.

Joy’s Question: Again there was a tsunami in Indonesia which the world media did not give much attention as the Middle East crisis has taken precedence over it. Are there any specific predictions about impending disasters caused by nature or by man for this year?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: I would suggest searching for ‘Earthquake triggering devices’ on Internet. You would get a very detailed answer. Yes, Nostradamus had predicted such events to take place in the present period.

Joy’s Question: Talk about recent Bomb blasts in Bombay? Do you think more strikes will occur in India?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: Yes, till the Cosmic Hierarchy takes the matter in its hands through an incarnation of God described as ‘Kalki Avatar’ in Indian scriptures, and as ‘Rider on the White Horse’ in Bible. The details have been given in this regard by an Australian writer Andrew Tomas in his book – ‘Shambhalla : The Oasis of Light’. A Tibetan saint, who met by chance to Tomas, told these details to him. My research tells me that it was not a chance meeting, but was arranged by the cosmic powers. The saint was the same cosmic power who told about the future to Nostradamus. I have included the necessary details of the meeting between Tomas and the saint in my book.

Joy’s Question: Do you believe in heaven and how real it is?

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: In my last interview I told you that I received a cosmic picture from the Universal Mind that appeared by itself on a piece of paper put in my place of worship in answer to my queries in this regard.

This question has been answered in that picture. When humans complete their cycle of births and re-births on physical level, they enter the Cosmic Hierarchy. This may be termed as heaven. For more details in this matter you can refer to the ‘Secret Doctrines’ of the ‘Theosophical Society’.

Joy’s Question: Thank you for talking to us again.

Mr. Ashok’s Answer: You are welcome.

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You can read or listen to Part  1 of my interview titled Is the World going to end? Here